My brother John decided to get an MP3 player. He is not a computer person, though he has a Window ME laptop. We went to Comp USA, to pickup a 20Gig Neuros. The Neuros has some really good features, including line in, and a radio transmitter and receiver.
Three evenings later we have only been able to get one song onto it. The software it comes with is horrible. As far as I can tell there is no way to rip a CD. The user interface is horrible and clunky. A quote on the Neuros forums pretty much sums up the software, “NSM seems to be aimed at people who like pain :P ”
On the bright side, it is being actively worked on, and the dev’s are very talkative in the forums. With time, it may rock. For now, get an iPod.